Comments on: Indoor Video of a Catastrophic Fire Event http://firedaily.com/2010/02/indoor-video-of-a-catastrophic-fire-event/ For Firefighters...By Firefighters Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:38:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Tom Allen http://firedaily.com/2010/02/indoor-video-of-a-catastrophic-fire-event/comment-page-1/#comment-432 Tom Allen Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:17:35 +0000 http://firedaily.com/?p=1316#comment-432 There was a seperation here in the States until the 70's. That's when we started to cross train firefighters to do EMS and train the EMS members to be firefighters. Most larger cities were the last to do this and I think New York City is still seperate. The fire service saw the opportunity to strengthen their position and numbers by taking over EMS. Here everytime a new job comes up the fire service says we can do that, is haz mat, highrise and below grade rescue, rescue diving and who knows what else. You are in a tough spot by being overworked with calls while the firefighters sit there waiting for their next emergency. If the two services were to consolidate you might have to join their ranks and become a firefighter and it sounds like you don't want to do that. I have no answers just observations...have a great day, Tom There was a seperation here in the States until the 70's. That's when we started to cross train firefighters to do EMS and train the EMS members to be firefighters. Most larger cities were the last to do this and I think New York City is still seperate. The fire service saw the opportunity to strengthen their position and numbers by taking over EMS. Here everytime a new job comes up the fire service says we can do that, is haz mat, highrise and below grade rescue, rescue diving and who knows what else. You are in a tough spot by being overworked with calls while the firefighters sit there waiting for their next emergency. If the two services were to consolidate you might have to join their ranks and become a firefighter and it sounds like you don't want to do that. I have no answers just observations…have a great day, Tom

]]> By: Tom Allen http://firedaily.com/2010/02/indoor-video-of-a-catastrophic-fire-event/comment-page-1/#comment-289 Tom Allen Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:17:35 +0000 http://firedaily.com/?p=1316#comment-289 There was a seperation here in the States until the 70's. That's when we started to cross train firefighters to do EMS and train the EMS members to be firefighters. Most larger cities were the last to do this and I think New York City is still seperate. The fire service saw the opportunity to strengthen their position and numbers by taking over EMS. Here everytime a new job comes up the fire service says we can do that, is haz mat, highrise and below grade rescue, rescue diving and who knows what else. You are in a tough spot by being overworked with calls while the firefighters sit there waiting for their next emergency. If the two services were to consolidate you might have to join their ranks and become a firefighter and it sounds like you don't want to do that. I have no answers just observations...have a great day, Tom There was a seperation here in the States until the 70's. That's when we started to cross train firefighters to do EMS and train the EMS members to be firefighters. Most larger cities were the last to do this and I think New York City is still seperate. The fire service saw the opportunity to strengthen their position and numbers by taking over EMS. Here everytime a new job comes up the fire service says we can do that, is haz mat, highrise and below grade rescue, rescue diving and who knows what else. You are in a tough spot by being overworked with calls while the firefighters sit there waiting for their next emergency. If the two services were to consolidate you might have to join their ranks and become a firefighter and it sounds like you don't want to do that. I have no answers just observations…have a great day, Tom

]]> By: Medic999 http://firedaily.com/2010/02/indoor-video-of-a-catastrophic-fire-event/comment-page-1/#comment-287 Medic999 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:24:50 +0000 http://firedaily.com/?p=1316#comment-287 As you know, I am not a Fire Fighter and never really want to be. Watching stuff like that is what makes me appreciate what you guys do. Over in the UK there is a wedge the size of the Atlantic ocean between EMS and the Fire Service. We see then sitting on station all day doing pretty much nothing other than training a bit and relaxing whilst we run calls all.....day....long!<br><br>However, not enough of us (i.e. ambulance staff) realise what it would be like to actually have to go into something like that shown in the video. The vast majority of us would be running in the opposite direction!!<br><br>As to what type of CFE it is?<br><br>I would guess that it is the type that I will stay as far away as possible from!! As you know, I am not a Fire Fighter and never really want to be. Watching stuff like that is what makes me appreciate what you guys do. Over in the UK there is a wedge the size of the Atlantic ocean between EMS and the Fire Service. We see then sitting on station all day doing pretty much nothing other than training a bit and relaxing whilst we run calls all…..day….long!

However, not enough of us (i.e. ambulance staff) realise what it would be like to actually have to go into something like that shown in the video. The vast majority of us would be running in the opposite direction!!

As to what type of CFE it is?

I would guess that it is the type that I will stay as far away as possible from!!

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